Colin Charles Agenda - Latest Comments in Useful advocacy

Re: Useful advocacy

Ruben — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 06:40:53 -0000

There's always more when dealing with you my friend.

Re: Useful advocacy

byte — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 02:50:53 -0000

Thats because the video card wasn't recognised :)

E-mail entering well, seemed like a nice way of doing things so I could respond back to folks with offers, etc...

We'll we've beaten this advocacy thread down, there'll be more. *grin*

Re: Useful advocacy

Ruben — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:03:23 -0000

Well, I installed Fedora once and it was long and time-consuming and i had to be at the terminal, unlike the WinXP setup.
Anyways, I am waiting for this new Linux you said will come out soon that will be really, really good. Don't get me wrong,
I am not anti-linux or anything. I just like to irritate you abit.

Must enter email now???
suckage

Re: Useful advocacy

byte — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 12:21:52 -0000

It wasn't RM1,000 - it was nearly RM3,000, with support. Komnas 2020. They're a bad company, run as a subsidiary of DRB-HICOM, and they don't even understand what the open source model is. They take OpenOffice.org for instance and relabel it as Komnas office, packaging it and never even sharing the spec files with us. Suckers.

It's dead because their cost was wayyyyyyy more than what you could get a system like that for at Imbi or Low Yat. Which is sad, because it should have been just as cheap. But folks have to make money, no?

Clone PCs if cheaper than a commercial Linux offering, I reckon most would prefer clone PCs and a pirated version of some proprietary OS. Linux isn't hard to install; I've had more success installing it than Windows :P

In fact, Red Hat/Fedora have a great tool called Anaconda - it beats Windows XP's setup, since its entirely graphical rather than XP's text-based startup.

Re: Useful advocacy

Ruben — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:33:01 -0000

The government was promoting a really cheap desktop that cost below RM1000. It came bundled with linux as I remember.
But now i think its dead, and I don't think anyone would want to buy it. I sure would not. There are a large majority
of clone PC users here, like me, and we opt to install Windows eventhough we can install Linux. I tried installing
Linux and it was time consuming and a little confusing if compared to the Windows installer.

Re: Useful advocacy

byte — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 12:29:44 -0000

Home users use Windows because its bundled with their computers (OEM). They can't be bothered to get any updates, etc... (hence the virii outbreaks, and all). If Linux was there by default, they'd use it too. Otherwise, Windows costs so little pirated, folks tend to use it too.

Promotion? Because Microsoft keeps on promoting against open source software. It's scary, but true. Visit microsoft and see them downplaying OSS.

You tried Linux (Fedora Core 1 amd64 test1 release), and didn't know how to configure GRUB for a dual-boot system. It might not be perfect (hence the test1), and we expect you to have some GRUB and general bootloader knowledge. An excuse of not being able to boot into Windows again is a bad one; I'd say it was successful - Linux won :P

Erm, that said, we all work on fixing bugs, really. We need more testers. We need more test platforms. And most of all, we need to get there before Longhorn.

Re: Useful advocacy

Ruben — Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:25:49 -0000

You are really better than Windows? Tell me this. Windows cost so much, and Linux is free.
So if you are better than Windows, why do most home users use Windows? And why do you need
so much promotion for open source software? You know i have tried a version of Linux under
your influence, and had a bad experience. So, in my opinion, you are not better than Windows.